“I never saw a supply and demand curve in seminary. I should have.”

This was written by Virginia Congressman David Brat in an academic paper back in 2011, when he was still an economics professor at Randolph-Macon College. The paper offers a unique exploration of the intersections of economics, policy, and theology, promoting a holistic view of economic freedom and social justice united with Christian witness.

Brat, who holds both a Master of Divinity and a Ph.D in economics, has been in Congress for just over a year, and in a recent interview with Ben Domenech, it appears as thoughhe’s retained much of that original perspective.

The discussioncovers a range of subjects (economics, education, foreign policy), but one of the more striking es when Domenech asks Brat about the decline of religion in American life and the corresponding erosion of munities and civic institutions.Brat’s response is wide and varied, but he begins by notingthat modern society as a whole is now in“uncharted territory.”

We are working within a plex, globalized economy, and so, before and beyondany sort of public policy proposals, we’ll need a healthy theology and philosophy of life to navigate the way forward.According to Brat,that means having far betterthinkers and theologians to navigate the way:

Our culture really has e high-paced, pressure-filled – my job is on steroids…So you do the best you can, but we are in a new world. It is probably only 20 years old. This new global world, we are just beginning to reflect on and understand what it means…I don’t think we understand the implications of what’s hit us and the type of world we’re going to live in…We are in new, uncharted territory…

The Christian tradition evolved especially in very small, munities, with 30 to 40 people hanging together, and the ethics was derived to fit into munities. It wasn’t derived by the Roman Empire, and so you’ve seen how the Judeo-Christian tradition has morphed as times change to deal with the Roman Empire…And as our times change, we are going to have to have some theologians who are very intelligent about how to use free markets. And not many theologians are too friendly when es to free markets, and I think they have to be.

They have to do with freedom, and God created us not as robots. God could have created us in a way that he mand us to do whatever. He gave us a free conscience…We do not believe in imposing our will on others.”

Brat duly recognizes the difficulty of reversing the tide, but it beginswith the cultural imagination and the theology behind it. That shift will necessarilystartat the most local levels of society, but it’s ratherrefreshing to hear it spokenfrom the top.

Listen to the rest of the interview here.